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Nakago Yaiba
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PostSubject: Items   Items EmptyThu Aug 08, 2013 1:40 pm

Kishin wrote:
I reworked the items as well, to make it work more limited for just Buki and Kujutsu users (and fuuin). Before you guys were saying something about making the materials in here have some sort of an stat or stress level or something.  I am thinking of reworking the metals and woods to give a constitution stat HP type thingy.  

Though it is going to be basic, so something like 15/8 Constitution per metal/wood down the list.  With metal starting at 20 for iron.

Bad idea or good idea?  Might be to advanced/chaotic.  Though would make sense for puppetry defeating, and weapon cutting or something.

New shop setup:


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PostSubject: Re: Items   Items EmptyThu Aug 08, 2013 2:14 pm

I'm personally against making items exclusive to Bukijutsu and Kujutsu users. If I want to buy something, and I have the money, I should be able to buy it. I don't think a shop owner would say, "Yar, Captain of the ANBU! Sorry, you can't buy this explosive tag! You don't have skill in Bukijutsu or Kujutsu!"
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PostSubject: Re: Items   Items EmptyThu Aug 08, 2013 3:29 pm

I like the new idea abut the Constitution for the material types of weaponry! Very unique, and this will help to gauge just how durable it actuallhy is! YES!

However, I agree with Keiri about the limiting issue. Anyone should be able to use weapons to a small degree, as it is taught in the academy for kids to use frekkin throwing weapons! It's basic ninja skills! Augh!
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PostSubject: Re: Items   Items EmptySat Aug 10, 2013 5:50 am

Agreed, everyone should be able to buy things from the shop. Also, like the idea of actually giving something a defense number
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PostSubject: Re: Items   Items EmptySat Aug 10, 2013 2:51 pm

Anyone should be able to use shuriken or kunai in the same way that even with a 0 in Ninjutsu, you may use C rank techniques. You can carry a sword with a Bukijutsu level of 0, but you won't be as good.

Constitution increases would be awesome as well for if/when we allow people to make armor like they can weapons.
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PostSubject: Re: Items   Items EmptySat Aug 10, 2013 5:51 pm

Okay, take off Bukijutsu restrictions to having weapons, DOne.
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PostSubject: Re: Items   Items EmptySat Aug 10, 2013 6:57 pm

Definitely up the prices of all the things that conduct chakra at 50% the cost. Considering they actually give a good boost, I think they would be more expensive. I don't have specific numbers in mind, because I'm not TOO familiar with our current money system, but they seem pretty cheap for their effect.
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PostSubject: Re: Items   Items EmptySat Aug 10, 2013 7:43 pm

I think the current exchange of Yen to the dollar is a 100:1 ratio, as in 100 yen = 1 American dollar, making mass produced regular kunai and shuriken 5 bucks, basically.
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PostSubject: Re: Items   Items EmptyWed Aug 14, 2013 2:02 am

Kishin mae another thing, I'll copy and paste it here.

Ya I can understand the no weapons thing. Anyone can buy a premade weapon and swing it.(already seeing those with high dex or good rping saying equal to those with weapon ability. That is what mods are for Razz ) Though the construction part of it is debatable.




Below, I changed the shop stuff around to make it acceptable. I added durability to the materials, though it is a mostly arough sketch. I do believe a lot in how a weapon is rped with for breaking and what not, but some things are constant as well.

Most likely, the material a premade weapon is made of is debatable as well, I listed them all as Iron, but surely someone will say Katana is steel or what not. I know some stuff about weapons, but not all things.
Same can definitely be said about wood as well, lol.


Shop Stuff:
For Everyone:
~Miscellaneous Items

Mouth flint | 300 Yen
Grappling Hook | 2,500 Yen
Torch | 1,000 Yen
Lantern | 2,500 Yen
Bedroll | 1,000 Yen
Lighter | 500 Yen
Water Canteen | 300 Yen
Rope | 1,000 Yen per 15ft
Electronic Devices (Communications, Tracking, Scopes, Motors, etc) | 150,000 Yen per device

~Medical Equipment
~Note: Pills which are taken in a short amount of time will result in an Over Dose (Maximum of two pills)

Medic Kit (includes: Flashlight, x2 Rolls of bandages, x 4 Pack of gauze, x4 syringes, x4 empty blood test tubes, x4 blood replenishing pills, x2 jars w/preservative fluid, scalpel, x4 Pain Killer Pills [C-rank]) | 10,000 Yen
Healing Ointment (Recovers wounds faster) | 8,000 Yen
Morphine | 12,000 Yen
Blood Recover Pills x5 (Replenishes 1/5 blood lost) | 5,000 Yen
Military Ration Pills x5 (Recovers 50% of chakra lost) | 10,000 Yen
Coagulation Pills x5 (Stops bleeding) | 10,000 Yen
Bandage Wrap | 1,000 Yen
Syringe | 1,000 Yen
Pack of Gauze | 1,000 Yen
Test tube | 2,500 Yen
Jar of Preservative Liquid | 5,000 Yen

~Common Ninja Tools/Explosives
All ninja tools of metal are made from Iron. Heavier weapons will be cast using 1.5X the amount of iron.

Shuriken | 500 Yen
- Giant Shuriken | 4,000 Yen
- Fuuma Shuriken | 8,000 Yen
Kunai | 500 Yen
Senbon | 200 Yen
Makibishi Caltrops | 50 Yen
Steel Metal Wire (per meter) | 100 Yen
Explosive Tag (Five meter blast radius) | 1,500 Yen
Flash Bomb | 850 Yen
Smoke Bomb | 850 Yen
- Poisonous Smoke bomb (Sleeping Gas) | 3,000 Yen
Chili Pepper Bomb | 600 Yen
Chakra Sealing Tag | 15,000 Yen

~Swords

Katana | 20,000 Yen
Daikatana | 25,000 Yen
Wakizashi | 15,000 Yen
Tanto | 7,500 Yen
Chokuto | 18,000 Yen
Kunai Blade | 16,000 Yen
Dao | 8,000 Yen
Cleaver Sword | 22,000 Yen
Ninjato | 14,000 Yen

~European Weaponry

Hand Axe | 4,000 Yen
War Axe | 9,000 Yen
Battle Axe | 13,500 Yen
Dagger | 1,000 Yen
Short Sword | 8,000 Yen
Long Sword | 16,000 Yen
Broad Sword | 18,000 Yen
Claymore | 22,000 Yen
Light Mace | 3,500 Yen
Heavy Mace | 8,000 Yen
Flail | 9,500 Yen
War Hammer | 7,500 Yen
Maul | 16,000 Yen
Hailberg | 16,000 Yen

~Exotic Ninja Tools

Sickle | 5,000 Yen
Kusarigama | (15 foot chain) 12,000 Yen
- Spiked Ball Kusarigama | 15,000 Yen
Bo Staff | 1,000 Yen
Spiked/Razor Chain (15 foot Chain) | 6,500 Yen
Chigi-riki | 6,000 Yen
Naginata | 14,000 Yen
Neko-te x2 | 16,000 Yen
Blowgun | 500 Yen
- Iron darts | 150 Yen
Spear | 12,000 Yen
Kanabo | 18,000 Yen
Nunchucks | 6,000 Yen
Trench Knife | 5,000 Yen

Aesthetics / Storage
Holster | 1000 Yen
Scabbard | 1500 Yen
Bag | 1000 Yen
Wraps | 1000 Yen
Reels | 1000 Yen
Keychain | 200,000,000,000 Yen
Briefcase | 500 Yen
Straps (Belt, shoulder, arm, etc.) | 250 Yen


For Fuuinjutsu:

Basic Scroll (holds five items) | 2,500 Yen
Medium Scroll (holds ten items) | 5,000 Yen
Large Scroll (holds twenty items) | 10,000 Yen
Huge Scroll (holds fifty items) | 15,000 Yen
Massive Scroll (holds 100 items) | 20,000 Yen
Giant Scroll (holds 1,000 items) | 30,000 Yen

Other Materials-
Water Resistant Paper| 10,000 Yen
Fire Resistant Paper | 10,000 Yen
Senju Paper (Conducts Chakra at 50% the Cost)| 25,000 Yen
Fire resistant cloth| 20,000 Yen
Water resistant cloth| 20,000 Yen



Bukijutsu and Kujutsu Materials

All materials have a set constitution or rather, durability. This is basically how much damage they can take before they break or can be broken. Using the same material 2+ times, and applying it in layers can increase the durability by double roughly. Though this also increases the weight by double, reducing dexterity and/or requiring more strength to wield.

Special Note: Some weapons are more made to battle others. Material alone doesn't designate if it will break or not. One would think a sword made of any metal, would cut through an item made of wood. But this isn't true. A sword made of Iron might be able to cut through a staff, but a club made of wood might be able to break a sword made of iron. Even the staff could break the sword, if it is hit at the top of the staff, splitting it, then the staff turned to break the blade. So don't think that everything with a higher durability will split, break, bend, etc. another with a lower durability, think of it as more of a guidance of what how much penetration something sharp might have against something dull, or how much strength it would take to crack it if punched upon.



These numbers should be taken with enemies strength, from the type of damage they are inflicting. If a proper defense is made, with lower numbers, especially with the stronger against forms, chances are the damage will dull the blade, though if enough hits are made at the same spot, especially with it's weakness, it could break the weapon.

Durability numbers: Bash | Pierce | Slash

Adept:
Wood- Mild against bash, weak against pierce, strong against slashing.
Pine| 500 Yen | 38 |28 | 48
Elm| 5,000 Yen | 45 |35 | 55
Hickory| 5,000 Yen | 45 |35 | 55
Drift Wood| 6,000 Yen | 47 |37 | 57
Birch| 8,000 Yen | 50 | 40 | 60
Balsa| 8,000 Yen | 50 |40 | 60
Willow| 9,000 Yen | 53 | 43 | 63
Cherry| 10,000 Yen | 55 |45 | 65
Oak| 12,000 Yen | 56 |46 | 66
Bamboo| 15,000 Yen | 58 |48 | 68
Red Wood| 30,000 Yen | 60 | 50 | 70
Petrified Wood| 40,000 Yen | 64 |54 | 74
Iron Wood| 50,000 Yen | 68 |58 | 78 |

Metals-Strong against pierce and slash, weak against bash.

These are metals you can use to create your weaponry whether it's kunai, shuriken, or whatever... Note: If you do not add a specific Metal, any metal weapon you have will be made of Iron, which is our basic metal here. If your weapon breaks, you can buy more iron to get it repaired, though you'll have to find a Blacksmith or a Bukijutsu expert with the know-how to craft weapons.

Iron| 500 Yen | 30 | 50 | 50
Lead | 800 Yen | 33 | 53 | 53
Steel | 10,000 Yen | 55 | 75 | 75
Copper | 8,000 Yen |52 | 72 | 72
Surgical Steel | 12,000 Yen |58 | 78 | 78
Tungsten | 14,000 Yen |62 | 82 | 82
Silver | 35,000 Yen |68 | 88 | 88
Gold | 50,000 Yen |70 | 90 | 90
Titanium | 80,000 Yen |88 | 108 | 108
Platinum | 100,000 Yen |98 | 118 | 118

Other Materials- Depends on material, usually medium amongst most forms of attack, but strong against bash. (Glass is weak against most attacks)
Paper| 200 Yen | 20 |10 | 10
Cloth| 500 Yen | 38 |28 | 28
Soft Plastic | 4,000 Yen | 55 |35 | 35
Glass | 5,000 Yen | 30 | 30 | 30
Hard Plastic | 5,000 Yen | 59 | 39 | 49
Leather | 7,000 Yen | 55 | 35 | 55
Rubber | 8,000 Yen | 57 | 57 | 57
Animal Fur | 10,000 Yen | 50 | 40 | 40

Specific Components:
Metal Wire / Cording | 5,000 Yen per 15ft
Metal Chain | 8,000 Yen per 15ft
Electronic Devices (Communications, Tracking, Scopes, Motors, etc) | 150,000 Yen per device
Detonators | 5,000 Yen
Chakra Receivers | 70,000 Yen (Disrupts chakra, can be used for basic messages, tracking)
Chemical Containers | 3000 Yen
Liquids (Oils, glue, etc) | 4000 Yen
Piping (Air compression, water compression, etc.) | 4000 Yen

Experienced Bukijutsu only.
Chakra Absorption | + 250,000 up to 1,500,000 Yen:
Small – 250,000 Yen : Up to C-rank
Medium – 750,000 Yen : Up to B-rank
Large – 1,500,000 Yen : Up to A-rank
Metals-
Edotite (conducts chakra at 50% the cost) | 500,000 Yen | 125 | 145 | 145
Wood-
Senju Tree Wood (Conducts Chakra at 50% the Cost)| 100,000 Yen | 85 |75 | 95
Other Materials-
Water Resistant Paper| 10,000 Yen | 45 |25 | 25
Fire Resistant Paper | 10,000 Yen | 45 | 25 | 25
Senju Paper (Conducts Chakra at 50% the Cost)| 25,000 Yen | 55 | 35 | 35
Fire resistant cloth| 20,000 Yen | 60 | 40 | 40
Water resistant cloth| 20,000 Yen | 60 | 40 | 40
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PostSubject: Re: Items   Items EmptyWed Aug 14, 2013 12:11 pm

Unfortunately, there is no way to really tell how effective and balanced this will be without actually using it. However, one thing I want to call attention to is the 5 Military Pills you can buy. For a mere 10,000 yen, or $100, you can essentially use 350% of your stamina in battle (100% + 50% per pill). The cost of something like that should be 150,000 yen for 3, or something to that effect. I'd rather not see someone do a couple D rank missions, pocket all these pills and last forever.
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PostSubject: Re: Items   Items EmptyWed Aug 14, 2013 2:10 pm

Rivu Aiasan wrote:
Unfortunately, there is no way to really tell how effective and balanced this will be without actually using it. However, one thing I want to call attention to is the 5 Military Pills you can buy. For a mere 10,000 yen, or $100, you can essentially use 350% of your stamina in battle (100% + 50% per pill). The cost of something like that should be 150,000 yen for 3, or something to that effect. I'd rather not see someone do a couple D rank missions, pocket all these pills and last forever.
Well, it says that you can't use more than two without overdosing.

Rivu has a point, though. Those things are cheap as fuck.
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Fighting Styles: Ninjutsu Master, Fuinjutsu Master, Taijutsu Master, Iryojutsu Master

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PostSubject: Re: Items   Items EmptyWed Aug 14, 2013 8:37 pm

I think they were rare in the show. Well, you guys can make edits to that list. Bump up the price, explain on it what overdosing does...
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